Understanding packet length

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asked 2020-02-13 23:08:45 +0000

updated 2020-02-13 23:54:10 +0000

I'm using Wireshark to learn about my network and better understand MTU and packet sizes, and I'm looking for some clarity on this example. Here I ran ping 192.168.10.53 -s 9000 -M do from a CentOS machine and I am capturing on the receiving machine which is Windows. So I expect the ICMP packet should contain 9000 bytes of data plus 8 byte header.

Wireshark shows the frame is 9042 bytes on wire (14 Ethernet header + 20 IPv4 header + 9008 ICMP)
The ICMP packet shows 8992 bytes of data plus 8 byte header.
What happened to the extra 8 bytes of data?

Here's the pcap: https://mega.nz/#!w0ohBYbA!lXEHtnrGqf...

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answered 2020-02-14 04:44:05 +0000

Chuckc
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The bellhop took them? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing...)

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc792

Echo or Echo Reply Message

    0                   1                   2                   3
    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |     Type      |     Code      |          Checksum             |
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |           Identifier          |        Sequence Number        |
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |     Data ...
   +-+-+-+-+-

The ICMP part of the packet is 8 bytes of header plus 9000 bytes of data = 9008 bytes ICMP.
Those 9000 bytes of data are an 8 bytes timestamp plus 8992 bytes of padding.
https://linux.die.net/man/8/ping

ECHO_REQUEST datagrams (''pings'') have an IP and ICMP header, followed by a struct timeval and then an arbitrary number of ''pad'' bytes used to fill out the packet.

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Detailed info of how Wireshark determines if first 8 bytes of data are a timestamp:
https://bugs.wireshark.org/bugzilla/s...

Chuckc ( 2020-02-14 04:53:34 +0000 )edit

You should see an icmp.data_time field of 8 bytes prior to the data of 8992 bytes. That is the extra 8 bytes of data you were looking for.

The typical *nix ping utility will use the first 8 bytes of the ICMP payload to carry a timestamp field that is used by the ping utility for calculating metrics typically seen in the ping summary report as "round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 2.442/40.075/366.079/108.680 ms". This specific behavior for ICMP echo request/reply is not specified in RFC 792.

If you were to ping with a packetize of less than 16 (e.g. -s 15) you will not see the icmp.data_time field, instead the data field length will be the requested packetsize length. FWIW: The ping utility supplied with Windows does not put a timestamp in the ping requests it generates regardless of ...(more)

Jim Young ( 2020-02-14 05:52:29 +0000 )edit

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